Facebook isn’t ’free’ when the cost is your data — and Zuckerberg knows it
- apr
- 11
- Posted by Michael
- Posted in Okategoriserade
How Tim Cook and Mark Zuckerberg's war of words reveals a profound split — and potential shift — in how technology companies view and respect our privacy.
It began with Tim Cook being interviewed by Kara Swisher and Chris Hayes, following Apple's education event in Chicago.
From Recode:
Cook made that point again today: "The truth is, we could make a ton of money if we monetized our customer — if our customer was our product. We've elected not to do that."
Swisher posed a question for Cook: What would he do if he were Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg? His answer: "I wouldn't be in this situation."
Mark Zuckerberg responded during a podcast with Ezra Klein.
From Vox:
You know, I find that argument, that if you're not paying that somehow we can't care about you, to be extremely glib and not at all aligned with the truth. The reality here is that if you want to build a service that helps connect everyone in the world, then there are a lot of people who can't afford to pay. And therefore, as with a lot of media, having an advertising-supported model is the only rational model that can support building this service to reach people.
That doesn't mean that we're not primarily focused on serving people. I think probably to the dissatisfaction of our sales team here, I make all of our decisions based on what's going to matter to our community and focus much less on the advertising side of the business.
But if you want to build a service which is not just serving rich people, then you need to have something that people can afford. I thought Jeff Bezos had an excellent saying on this in one of his Kindle launches a number of years back. He said, "There are companies that work hard to charge you more, and there are companies that work hard to charge you less." And at Facebook, we are squarely in the camp of the companies that work hard to charge you less and provide a free service that everyone can use.
I don't think at all that that means that we don't care about people. To the contrary, I think it's important that we don't all get Stockholm syndrome and let the companies that work hard to charge you more convince you that they actually care more about you. Because that sounds ridiculous to me.
Then, during Zuckerberg's testimony before the U.S. Senate, photographer Andy Harnik managed to grab a shot of his notes.
From Associated Press:
Tim Cook on biz model
- Bezos: "Companies that work hard to charge you more and companies that work [hard to charge you] less."
- Ay FB, we try hard to charge you less. In fact, we're free.
- [On data, we're similar. When you install an app on your iPhone, you give it [access to] information, just like when you login to FB.
- Lots of stories about apps misusing Apple data, never seen Apple notify people.
- important you hold everyone to the same standard.
Where to begin?
No such thing as 'free-as-in-your-data'
Cook's comments, which came on the heels of an education event, are consistent with his and Apple's philosophies and policies going back years. Apple charges for hardware and some software and services, and uses that income to subsidize a much larger pool of software and services, including iOS, macOS, iWork, iLife, free apps on the App Store, the basic level of iCloud, iMessage, Apple News, and more.
When Cook says he wouldn't be in this situation, it's because he's chosen to work at, and continue to operate, a company whose business model allows it to have users that are also customers, and line up behind the privacy and security of those users-as-customers.
Zuckerberg's comments, which came in the midst of whatever the tech CEO equivalent of a celebrity contrition and redemption tour is, felt fresher and more raw. Almost angry. He goes as close as he possibly can to calling Tim Cook a liar without using that word. And it's ironic, given the utter lack of truth in Zuckerberg's comment.
Facebook isn't like Amazon. I won't delve into Amazon's sometimes predatory pricing strategies here, but in essence, it still charges you money for goods or services. Facebook charges you data and attention. And that's not charging anyone "less" at all — depending on your perspective, it's charging much, much more. It's charging something that not everyone may value but that is, in many ways, priceless.
Further, the implication that those who can't afford to pay in money should be grateful they can pay in data is insensitive at best, horrifying at worst.
In essence, Apple charges you for a meal. Facebook gives you a lobster dinner and then sits there, leering at you.
And that isn't "free". "Free-as-in-data-and-attention" isn't "free". Again, depending on your perspective, it's radically more expensive.
Fool me once
On the subject of user data, Apple and Apple developers have certainly made mistakes in the past. Location data, Path, Uber, and Facebook itself have all had incidents. Yet, in each case, Apple added protections, called CEOs to the carpet, and amped up the security of the platform. In other words, Apple worked hard not to make the same mistake repeatedly.
Facebook, on the other hand, has a history littered with incidents followed by apologies that ultimately led to very little change. That Zuckerberg is sitting before the U.S. Senate now shows how seriously he and Facebook have taken privacy up until now. Privacy theater would be a fair way to put it.
And people can tell. Over time, over incidents, the difference becomes apparent. It happened with Eric Schmidt at Google and it's happening with Mark Zuckerberg at Facebook: That subtle shift from when you think they're naive to when you realize they think you're gullible. From when you think they're not being candid to when you realize they think you're too dumb to know they're not being candid.
Data isn't a business model
The truth is, using data to provide services is completely separate from exploiting that data for advertising, marketing, or influence peddling. Using a stream of data for machine learning is completely separate from persisting and hoarding that data for other uses.
You can subsidize deeply personal services the way Facebook (or Google) does, absolutely. But you can also subsidize deeply personal services in other ways, including hardware profits, the way Apple does.
Zuckerberg's whataboutism notwithstanding, Apple and Tim Cook have been long on privacy for years. Even when it looked like people didn't care — that data in exchange for services was a great deal — Apple and Tim Cook believed that the sentiment would change. That it would have to.
What's happening with Facebook right now and the way Mark Zuckerberg is choosing to react to it sure makes it seem like they were right.
Senaste inläggen
- Apple tvingas dra tillbaka avancerat dataskydd i Storbritannien
- Apples C1 – deras första egenutvecklade modem
- Apple: ’Severance’ nu mer populär än ’Ted Lasso’
- Iphone 15 Pro får Visual Intelligence i en kommande IOS-uppdatering
- Iphone 16e har inte samma chipp som Iphone 16
Senaste kommentarer
Arkiv
- februari 2025
- januari 2025
- september 2024
- augusti 2024
- juli 2024
- juni 2024
- maj 2024
- april 2024
- mars 2024
- februari 2024
- januari 2024
- december 2023
- november 2023
- oktober 2023
- september 2023
- augusti 2023
- juli 2023
- juni 2023
- maj 2023
- april 2023
- mars 2023
- februari 2023
- januari 2023
- december 2022
- november 2022
- oktober 2022
- september 2022
- augusti 2022
- juli 2022
- juni 2022
- maj 2022
- april 2022
- mars 2022
- februari 2022
- april 2021
- mars 2021
- januari 2021
- december 2020
- november 2020
- oktober 2020
- september 2020
- augusti 2020
- juli 2020
- juni 2020
- maj 2020
- april 2020
- mars 2020
- februari 2020
- januari 2020
- december 2019
- november 2019
- oktober 2019
- september 2019
- augusti 2019
- juli 2019
- juni 2019
- maj 2019
- april 2019
- mars 2019
- februari 2019
- januari 2019
- december 2018
- november 2018
- oktober 2018
- september 2018
- augusti 2018
- juli 2018
- juni 2018
- maj 2018
- april 2018
- mars 2018
- februari 2018
- januari 2018
- december 2017
- november 2017
- oktober 2017
- september 2017
- augusti 2017
- juli 2017
- juni 2017
- maj 2017
- april 2017
- mars 2017
- februari 2017
- januari 2017
- december 2016
- november 2016
- oktober 2016
- september 2016
- augusti 2016
- juli 2016
- juni 2016
- maj 2016
- april 2016
- mars 2016
- februari 2016
- januari 2016
- december 2015
- november 2015
- oktober 2015
- september 2015
- augusti 2015
- juli 2015
- juni 2015
- maj 2015
- april 2015
- mars 2015
- februari 2015
- januari 2015
- december 2014
- november 2014
- oktober 2014
- september 2014
- augusti 2014
- juli 2014
- juni 2014
- maj 2014
- april 2014
- mars 2014
- februari 2014
- januari 2014
Kategorier
- –> Publicera på PFA löp
- (PRODUCT) RED
- 2015
- 25PP
- 2nd gen
- 32gb
- 3D Touch
- 3D-kamera
- 4k
- 64gb
- 9to5mac
- A10
- A9X
- Aaron Sorkin
- Accessories
- adapter
- AirPlay
- AirPods
- Aktiv
- Aktivitetsarmband
- Aktuellt
- Alfred
- Allmänt
- AMOLED
- Android Wear
- Angela Ahrendts
- Ångerätt
- Animal Crossing
- Animal Crossing New Horizons
- announcements
- Ansiktsigenkänning
- app
- App Store
- Appar
- Apple
- Apple Beta Software Program
- Apple Book
- Apple CarPlay
- Apple Event
- Apple iMac
- Apple Inc
- Apple Inc, Consumer Electronics, iCloud, iOS, iPhone, Mac, Mobile, Personal Software, Security Software and Services
- Apple Inc, iCloud
- Apple Inc, iOS
- Apple Inc, Mobile Apps
- Apple Inc, Monitors
- Apple Mac Mini
- Apple Macbook
- Apple MacBook Air
- Apple MacBook Pro
- Apple Macos
- Apple Maps
- Apple Music
- Apple Music Festival
- Apple Music Radio
- Apple Offer
- Apple Online Store
- Apple Park
- Apple Pay
- Apple Pencil
- Apple Podcast
- Apple Store
- Apple Store 3.3
- Apple TV
- apple tv 4
- Apple TV 4K
- Apple Watch
- Apple Watch 2
- Apple Watch 8
- Apple Watch 9
- Apple Watch Apps
- Apple Watch SE
- Apple Watch Series 2
- Apple Watch Sport
- Apple Watch Ultra
- Apple Watch, Headphones
- Apple Watch, iPhone
- AppleCare
- AppleTV
- Application
- Applications
- Apps
- AppStore
- Apptillägg
- Apptips
- AppTV
- April
- Arbetsminne
- armband
- Art Apps
- Återköp
- återvinning
- Åtgärdsalternativ
- atvflash
- Audio Apps
- Augmented REality
- Back-to-school
- Bakgrundsbilder
- BankId
- Barn
- Batteri
- batteriskal
- batteritid
- Beats
- Beats 1
- Beats Solo 2 Wireless
- Beats Solo2
- Bebis
- Beginner Tips
- Belkin
- Bendgate
- beta
- Beta 3
- betaversion
- betaversioner
- bilddagboken.se
- bilder
- bilhållare
- billboard
- Bioteknik
- Blendtec
- Bloomberg
- Bloons TD 5
- Bluelounge
- Bluetooth
- Böj
- Booking.com
- Borderlinx
- bose
- bugg
- Buggar
- Buggfixar
- Butik
- C More
- Calc 2M
- Camera
- Camera Apps
- Campus 2
- Canal Digital
- Carpool Karaoke
- Caseual
- Catalyst
- CES 2015
- Chassit
- Chip
- Chrome Remote Desktop
- Chromecast
- citrix
- clic 360
- CNBC
- Computer Accessories
- Computer Accessories, Laptop Accessories
- Connect
- Cydia
- Dagens app
- Dagens tips
- Damm
- Danny Boyle
- Data
- datamängd
- Datorer
- Datortillbehör
- Datum
- Defense
- Dekaler
- Designed by Apple in California
- Developer
- Development
- Digital Inn
- Digital Touch
- Digitalbox
- DigiTimes
- Direkt
- Discover
- display
- DisplayMate
- Dive
- Docka
- Dräger 3000
- Dropbox
- Droples
- DxOMark
- E-post
- earpod
- EarPods
- Earth Day
- Eddie Cue
- eddy cue
- Educational Apps
- Ekonomi
- Ekonomi/Bransch
- El Capitan
- Elements
- ElevationLab
- Elgato Eve
- Elgato Eve Energy
- EM 2016
- Emoji
- emojis
- emoticons
- Enligt
- Entertainment Apps
- EU
- event
- Eventrykten
- EverythingApplePro
- Faceshift
- facetime
- Fäste
- Featured
- Features
- Feng
- Film / Tv-serier
- Filmer
- Filstorlek
- Finance Apps
- Finder For AirPods
- Finland
- FireCore
- Fitbit
- Fitness Accessories
- Fjärrstyr
- Flurry
- Födelsedag
- fodral
- Förboka
- Force Touch
- förhandsboka
- Första intryck
- Forumtipset
- foto
- FoU (Forskning och Utveckling)
- Fource Touch
- Foxconn
- FPS Games
- Framtid
- Fre Power
- Frontpage
- Fullt
- Funktioner
- Fuse Chicken
- Fyra
- Gadgets
- Gagatsvart
- Gamereactor
- Games
- Gaming
- Gaming Chairs
- Gästkrönika
- General
- Gigaset
- Gitarr
- Glas
- GM
- Google Maps
- Google Now
- gratis
- grattis
- Guide
- Guider
- Guider & listor
- Guld
- hack
- Halebop
- hållare
- Hälsa
- Hårdvara
- HBO
- HBO Nordic
- Health
- Health and Fitness
- Health and Fitness Apps
- Hej Siri
- Helvetica Neue
- Hemelektronik
- Hemknapp
- Hemlarm
- Hermes
- Hitta min iphone
- Hjärta
- högtalare
- HomeKit
- HomePod
- Homepod Mini
- hörlurar
- htc
- Hue
- Humor
- i
- I Am A Witness
- IBM
- iBolt
- iBomber
- iBook
- icar
- iCloud
- iCloud Drive
- iCloud Voicemail
- iCloud.com
- iDevices
- IDG Play
- idownloadblog
- iFixit
- ikea
- iKörkort
- iLife
- Illusion Labs
- iMac
- IMAP
- iMessage
- iMessages
- iMore Show
- Incipio
- InFuse
- Inspelning
- Instagram-flöde
- Instrument
- Intel
- Internet/Webbtjänster
- iOS
- iOS 10
- iOS 12
- iOS 17
- iOS 18
- iOS 5
- iOS 7
- iOS 8
- iOS 8 beta
- iOS 8.1.3
- iOS 8.2
- iOS 8.3
- iOS 8.4
- iOS 8.4.1
- iOS 9
- iOS 9 beta 4
- iOS 9.1
- iOS 9.1 beta 2
- iOS 9.2
- iOS 9.2.1
- iOS 9.3
- IOS Games
- ios uppdatering
- iOS, iPad, MacOS
- iOS, iPhone
- ios9
- iPad
- iPad Accessories
- iPad Air
- iPad Air 2
- iPad Air 3
- iPad Air 5
- iPad Apps
- iPad Mini
- iPad mini 4
- iPad Mini 6
- iPad mini retina
- iPad Pro
- iPad, iPhone, Mac
- iPad, iPhone, Mobile Apps
- iPad, iPhone, Streaming Media
- iPados
- iphone
- iPhone 12
- iPhone 14
- iPhone 14 Pro
- iPhone 15
- iPhone 16
- iPhone 17
- iPhone 5
- iPhone 5S
- iPhone 5se
- iPhone 6
- iphone 6 plus
- iPhone 6c
- iPhone 6s
- iPhone 6S plus
- iPhone 7
- iPhone 7 display
- iPhone 7 Plus
- iPhone 7s
- iPhone Accessories
- iPhone Apps
- iPhone Cases
- iPhone SE
- iphone x
- iPhone XS
- iPhone XS Max
- iPhone, Mobile Apps
- iPhone7
- iPhoneGuiden
- iPhoneguiden.se
- iPhones
- iPod
- iPod Nano
- iPod shuffle
- ipod touch
- iSight
- iTunes
- iWatch
- iWork
- iWork för iCloud beta
- Jailbreak
- James Corden
- Jämförande test
- Jämförelse
- Jet Black
- Jet White
- Jönssonligan
- Jony Ive
- Juice Pack
- Juridik
- Just mobile
- kalender
- kalkylator
- Kamera
- Kameratest
- Karriär/Utbildning
- Kartor
- Kevin Hart
- keynote
- Keynote 2016
- KGI
- KGI Security
- Kina
- Klassiskt läderspänne
- Kod
- Kollage
- koncept
- konceptbilder
- köpguide
- krasch
- Krascha iPhone
- Krönika
- Kvartalsrapport
- Laddhållare
- laddningsdocka
- Laddunderlägg
- läderloop
- lagar
- Lagring
- Lajka
- Länder
- lansering
- laserfokus
- Layout
- leather loop
- LG
- Liam
- Lifeproof
- Lightnigport
- lightning
- Linux
- LinX
- live
- Live GIF
- Live Photos
- Live-event
- Livsstil
- Ljud & Bild
- Logitech
- LOL
- Lösenkod
- Lösenkodlås
- Lovande spel
- LTE
- Luxe Edition
- M3
- M3TV
- Mac
- Mac App Store
- Mac Apps
- Mac Mini
- Mac OS
- Mac OS X
- Mac OS X (generellt)
- Mac OS X Snow Leopard
- Mac Pro
- Mac, MacOS
- Mac, Online Services
- Mac, Security Software and Services
- Macbook
- Macbook Air
- Macbook Pro
- MacBook, MacOS
- Macforum
- Macintosh
- macOS
- MacOS, Security Software and Services
- Macs
- MacWorld
- Made for Apple Watch
- magi
- Magic
- MagSafe
- Martin Hajek
- matematik
- Meddelanden
- Media Markt
- Medieproduktion
- Mediocre
- Messaging Apps
- Messenger
- MetaWatch
- Mfi
- Michael Fassbender
- microsoft
- Mikrofon
- Minecraft
- Ming-Chi Kuo
- miniräknare
- minne
- Mixer
- Mixning
- Mjukvara
- mobbning
- Mobile Apps
- Mobile Content
- Mobilt
- Mobilt/Handdator/Laptop
- Mobiltelefon
- Mockup
- Mophie
- mors dag
- moto 360
- Motor
- MTV VMA
- multitasking
- Music
- Music Apps
- Music, Movies and TV
- Musik
- Musikmemon
- MW Expo 2008
- native union
- Nätverk
- Navigation Apps
- nedgradera
- Netatmo Welcome
- Netflix
- Netgear Arlo
- News
- Niantic
- Nike
- Nikkei
- Nintendo
- Nintendo Switch
- Nöje
- Norge
- Notis
- Notiscenter
- nya färger
- Nyfödd
- Nyheter
- Officeprogram
- Okategoriserade
- OLED
- omdöme
- Omsättning
- OS X
- OS X El Capitan
- OS X Mavericks
- OS X Yosemite
- Outlook
- Övrig mjukvara
- Övrigt
- PanGu
- papper
- patent
- PC
- pebble
- Pebble Smartwatch
- Pebble Steel
- Pebble Time
- Pebble Time Steel
- Persondatorer
- Petter Hegevall
- PewDiePie
- Philips
- Philips Hue
- Phones
- Photoshop
- Planet of the apps
- Plex
- Pluggar
- Plus
- Plusbox
- Podcast
- Podcast Apps
- Pokemon
- Pokemon Go
- Policy
- Porträttläge
- PP
- Pris
- priser
- problem
- Problems
- Productivity Apps
- Program
- Prylar & tillbehör
- Publik
- publik beta
- QuickTime
- räkenskapsår
- räkna
- ram
- RAM-minne
- Rapport/Undersökning/Trend
- Rea
- Reading Apps
- recension
- Red
- reklaamfilm
- reklam
- reklamfilm
- reklamfilmer
- rekord
- Rendering
- reparation
- Reportage
- Reptest
- ResearchKit
- Retro
- Review
- Ring
- Ringa
- Rocket Cars
- Rosa
- Rumors
- Rumours
- RunKeeper
- rykte
- Rykten
- Safir
- Säkerhet
- Säkerhetsbrist
- Samhälle/Politik
- samsung
- Samtal
- San Francisco
- SAP
- security
- Series 2
- Servrar
- Shigeru Miyamoto
- Sia
- Simulation Games
- Siri
- SJ Min resa
- skal
- Skal iPhone 6
- skal iPhone 6s
- skärm
- SKärmdump
- Skärmglas
- Skribent
- skribenter medarbetare
- Skriva ut
- skruvmejsel
- skydd
- Skyddsfilm
- Skype
- slice intelligence
- Smart
- smart hem
- Smart Home
- Smart Keyboard
- Smart klocka
- Smart Lights
- smartphone
- Smartwatch
- SMS
- Snabbt
- Snapchat
- Social Apps
- Software
- Solo2
- sommar
- Sonos
- Sony
- soundtouch
- Space Marshals
- spår
- Speakers
- Special Event
- Spel
- Spelkonsol
- Spellistor
- Split Screen
- Split View
- Sport
- Sportband
- Sports Apps
- spotify
- Spring forward
- Statistik
- Steve Jobs
- Stickers
- Stockholm
- Stor iPhone
- Storlek
- Story Mode
- Strategy Games
- streama
- Streaming
- Streaming Devices
- Streaming Media
- stresstest
- Ström
- Studentrabatt
- stylus
- Super Mario Run
- support
- Surf
- Surfplatta
- svenska
- sverige
- Sverigelansering
- Switch
- Systemstatus
- Systemutveckling
- tåg
- Taig
- Tangentbord
- Taptic Engine
- Tårta
- tät
- Tävling
- Taylor Swift
- Teknik
- tele 2
- Telefoner
- Telekom
- Telia
- Test
- Tid
- TikTok
- Tile
- tillbehör
- Tim Cook
- TIME
- TimeStand
- Tiny Umbrella
- Tips
- Toppnyhet IDG.se
- Touch ID
- TouchID
- tower defence
- trådlös laddning
- Trådlösa hörlurar
- trådlöst
- trailer
- Travel Apps
- Tre
- TrendForce
- TripAdvisor
- Trolleri
- trump
- TSMC
- Tum
- tv
- TV Apps
- tvätta
- tvOS
- tvOS 9.2
- tvOS beta 2
- Tweak
- Typsnitt
- Ubytesprogram
- UE MegaBoom
- Unboxing
- Underhållning/Spel
- unidays
- United Daily News
- Unix
- Updates
- Uppdatera
- uppdatering
- Upplösning
- upptäckt
- USA
- Ut på Twitter
- utbyte
- utbytesprogram
- Utilities Apps
- Utlottning
- utrymme
- utvecklare
- varumärke
- Vatten
- Vattentålig
- vattentät
- vävt nylon
- Verktyg
- Viaplay
- Vibrator
- video
- Videoartiklar och webb-tv (M3/TW/CS)
- Villkor
- viloknapp
- Virtual Reality
- Virus
- visa
- Vision Pro
- VLC
- Volvo on call
- W1
- Waitrose
- Watch OS
- WatchOS
- WatchOS 2
- watchOS 2.0.1
- watchOS 2.2
- Webbtv (AppTV)
- wi-fi
- Wifi-samtal
- Windows
- Windows 8
- WWDC
- WWDC2015
- yalu
- Youtube
- Zlatan